[Ogre] Re: Ogre-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 11

[Chris French]

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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:46:56 -0400
> From: David Morse <dcmorse at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Ogre] standardized, non-sj-copyright maps
> So, thinking about the standard-map problem a bit more, I can think of
> two ways to do it:

Why not a properly-square mapsheet (that is, say, 8" x 8"), with a
hex-grid arranged such that an essentially infinite number of sheets
may be stuck together to form a battlefield? Aaron Allston tried this
with _Car Wars_ (among other such games)-related mapsheets (the
old _Autoventures_ line); a similar tack could be employed with
hex-maps.

> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:08:50 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Henry J. Cobb" <hcobb at io.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ogre] A scenario for infantry
> So Inf can be worth the points, in the right terrain?

Of course. As has been pointed out, _O_ shows off the Worst
Points of INF without showing any of the Best Points -- the INF are
on open terrain, without any sort of hiding places, so of course they
get creamed like corn.

Conversely, the map you describe (Pripet Marshes, maybe?) shows
off the Worst Points of *Armor* without showing any of the Best
Points -- the going underfoot is all-but-impossible, and the tracks
have no hiding places; meanwhile the footsloggers are in Hog
Heaven (in more ways than one, with all that mud).

If anything, the scenario you describe shows that the point system
for _O_ is hopelessly Boned; the terrain dictates the effectivness of
the unit, rather than any intrinsic nature of the unit itself.

> In the advanced Raid scenario, what would the trade off cost in terms of
> GEVs given up for a GEV-PC with three standard squads have to be before
> you would take some loaded GEV-PCs as the attacker?
> 
> A: More than 2 GEVs per GEV-PC with three squads.
> B: 2 GEVs for a GEV-PC and three squads.
> C: 3 GEVs for 2 GEV-PCs and six squads.
> D: 1 GEV for a GEV-PC and three squads.
> E: Less than 1 GEV per GEV-PC and three squads.
> F: It depends on whether the defender gets cruise missiles.

None of the above. The question is whether or not the squads on
the GPCs can offload in the First-Movement phase, then reload in
the Second-Movement phase (can you say "HoverBlitz"?).

If they can, then grab as many as possible (Attack 7, Move 3); if not,
don't. (I play the latter style, myself, so for "Raid", I grab as many
LGEV as possible, and Fuzzy-Wuzzy the local terrain to death.)

INF are for holding terrain; put them in a non-clear hex, and see how
long it takes to remove the little bastards. GEVs are "shoot-&-scoot"
units; run 'em up to a target, mass the Attack points, then DMFP
before the Defender's tracks arrive.

CF