[Ogre] Ogre Mark VI stats

[David Morse]

Hi,

For both the Mark 6 and Dopp, there were stats published in Ogre
Miniatures with severely too few racks, to the point where Mark Vs
were shooting off all the missiles on the supposedly superior
super-dupers, then fighting them to more-or-less-a-draw at range-2.

I believe my declaration of intent to boycott the super-duper minis
unless this was fixed directly led to the upgunned versions you cited,
but others gallantly complained as well.

So the second stats you cited for the Dopp are correct for Minis and
Hex.  The second stats you cited for the Mk6 are correct for minis,
and almost correct for hex.  The hex vesion has 75 treads but is
otheriwise like the minis version.

By the way, I talked to Paul Chapman and he said that the 48/45 tread
dichotomy on Mark IIIs between hex and minis is not a retcon rules
change, but a permanent, intentional discrepancy between hex and
minis.  Similar discrepancies apply for the Mk IV, Fencer, III-B, and
Mark VI.  Actually, what he said was weaselier, so that he didn't have
to actually go dig out his ogre books - he said that hex rules specify
hex values, and minis rules specify minis values, and declined to
specify what the box-backs on the OM boxed sets counted as.  Looking
at my sole remaining box-back, for the III-B, it looks like hex rules
to me, and it appears to have 48 treads.  So the whole issue is clear
as mud.

Anyway, YACD has been split into two pages which give the different
stats for the different game systems to the best of this humble egg's
ability to understand the increasingly byzantine situation:
http://tank.osaurus.us/yacd.html


On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:05:13 -0600, Douglas R. Pearson
<pearsond at odsgc.net> wrote:
> Hello, Henry!
> 
> I've been following OGRE for a long time and have
> a lot of the products.
> 
> I'm trying to compile a complete list of stats on
> the "official" units in the Ogreverse and have hit
> some snags.
> 
> The first one is with the stats for the Combine Mark IV.
> According to Reinforcement Pack (Y2K ed.) it has:
> 
> 3 main batteries, 6 secondary batteries, 16 anti-personnels,
> 2 missile racks with 20 internal missiles, and 75 treads.
> 
> But the Ogre Reference Card that is available from SJ Games'
> webpage has the stats at:
> 
> 3 main batteries, 6 secondary batteries, 16 anti-personnels,
> 6 external missiles, 3 missile racks with 12 internal missiles,
> and 72 treads.
> 
> Since I don't play Ogre Miniatures (just "Ogre Hex"), the
> tread discrepancy doesn't bother me much.  But I can't ignore
> the discrepancy in the missiles and missile racks!
> 
> The archives don't seem to settle the issue (I've looked!).
> Can you tell me which version is to be the "official" version?
> Or is this a case of the first version being the "Mark VI" and
> the second being a "Mark VI-B" (as in what happened with the
> Fencer)?