IN> Appropriate Discord

Daniel Childers cpt_democracy at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 18 10:31:57 CDT 2007




>From: Mervi Hamalainen <Mervi.Hamalainen at uta.fi>
>>From: "Daniel Childers" <cpt_democracy at hotmail.com>
>
>>>From: William Keith <wjk150 at email.psu.edu>
>>
>>>I wouldn't give her dissonance for voluntarily giving up hooks.    A 
>>>Lilim
>>>who does this is a lock for Redemption candidate, and she's just provided
>>>hard evidence of it.
>>>
>>
>>Which is why she should get dissonance. She is violating her nature as a
>>demon.
>
>Except that in canon dissonance doesn't work that way. Angels don't  get 
>dissonance for doing something which humans would consider evil  and 
>likewise demons don't get dissonance for doing good deeds.
>

But it *is* violating her essence as a (non-Bright) Lilim. Lilim don't
give things away for free.

IIRC, Lilim get dissonance when their Geases are resisted. I would
count this as, roughly, she is voluntarily allowing her victim to resist
Geases. In fact, that would make it *more* dissonant in my opinion--
she isn't accidentally failing to live according to her nature as a demon;
she is *purposefully* failing to live that way. IE, she is allowing
the real Symphony to override her personal, selfish Symphony. For
a demon, that's dissonance.

(And frankly, the dissonance rules as written can be a little screwy.
An angel of Stone can work against his Word all he wants--destroying
stone (both metaphoically as bonds, or literally as in rocks) willy-nilly--
as long as they don't throw the first punch in a fight. Odd.)

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