IN> Hellsworn Ghosts

Jonathan Lang dataweaver at gmail.com
Mon Sep 11 18:45:17 CDT 2006


Earl Wajenberg wrote:
> Within canon, is it possible that Forces within a category don't have
> independent existence?  If I have four dollars in a bank account,
> there's no meaning to asking which dollar in the account went in first.

I've heard stories where people have written notes on dollar bills,
and encountered the same dollar bill years later.  Two dollar bills
may have the same monetary value, but they still have independant
existence.

>   Perhaps it's the same with Forces.  Once you add an Infernal Force to
> your Celestial Forces, well, your Celestial Forces are somewhat
> Infernal, period.  There's no sense talking about fishing out the
> infernal one.  Then de-infernalizing a Hellsworn would be like
> redeeming a demon, and likewise rough on the subject.

I would say that non-Superiors lack the ability to distinguish between
Forces at all.  That does not mean that the Forces cease to be
distinct, if for no other reason than the fact that Superiors _can_
distinguish between them.  Thus, it makes no sense to talk about a
non-Superior fishing out the infernal Force; but it makes _perfect_
sense to speak of a Superior doing so.

I'm also a proponent of "hidden variable" models of quantum mechanics;
so that may be influencing my judgement here.  And I'm of the opinion
that even Superiors should work within the rules as much as possible,
and that exceptions should be made for them only when neccessary, and
only to the minimum degree that's needed.

-- 
Jonathan "Dataweaver" Lang


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