IN> Roles, and how they come to be

[Landon W Schurtz]

Thanks!  That was EXACTLY what I was looking for!

:D

LWS

--- William Keith <wjk150 at email.psu.edu> wrote:

> 
> On Sep 5, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Landon W Schurtz wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Pardon me if I am dredging up some old discussion,
> but
> > I didn't seen anything in the FAQ or in the list
> rules
> > that was illuminating on the subject.  So I ask,
> >
> > How do roles "come about" in the world?  Does a
> > celestial have to live out the role in order to
> > "establish" it?
> 
> Yep.  Typically, this grunt work is done by
> relievers or demonlings, 
> because it's more convenient to have full-fledged
> demons spend their 
> time in Role, by doing what you mention next:
> 
> >   In principle, it seems, no matter how
> > they come about, that a celestial with an
> appropriate
> > vessel could "take over" a Role from another
> celestial
> > (given enough of a briefing, depending on how
> complex
> > things are) without disrupting the Role.
> 
> Many Roles are prepared this way, though sometimes a
> celestial simply 
> starts out with some ID paperwork and builds up the
> Role themself; this 
> is especially useful for "deep cover" operatives who
> rely on a high 
> Role.
> 
> >   Likewise, it
> > seems that a high rated Role could be gained by
> > creating a vessel appropriate to "step into" the
> life
> > of someone the celestial knows is dead, but whose
> > death is not known to the rest of the world.
> 
> This is in fact exactly how Laurence's Kyriotates
> obtain Roles as a 
> Servitor Attunement, along with a body; other
> celestials could have 
> their Superiors make a body to spec and quickly get
> well-established 
> identification paperwork, but they would still have
> to spend time 
> living the Role before the Symphony accepted them as
> someone performign 
> that job, holding that name, etc.
> 
> > The most important aspect of my question is
> whether
> > Roles can just "be created" (by sufficiently
> powerful
> > beings, of course).  Can they simply weave the
> changes
> > into the Symphony without having any "grunt work"
> done
> > in establishing the Role?
> 
> Usually not.  Special cases are Laurence's
> Kyriotates, as above, and 
> Jordi's servants in their favored animal Vessel. 
> Asmodeus' Servitors 
> get Roles, but must pay for them; the Game simply is
> very good at 
> helping these get established.  Nybbas' Lilim sart
> with Roles as their 
> Band attunement and do not have to pay extra, but
> again one can imagine 
> that this is simply the gratis product of much grunt
> work on the part 
> of the Media.  However, it is also in the flavor of
> Nybbas' Word to 
> have him be able to simply wave his hand, put some
> Essence into it, and 
> say, "You're a star, baby.  Even the Symphony thinks
> so."  For most 
> celestials, however, somebody has to put the elbow
> grease in.
> 
> William
> 
> 
> 


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