IN> Grigori Conjecture
William Keith
wjk150 at email.psu.edu
Wed Oct 11 08:36:39 CDT 2006
>> Canonically, the Flood has not shown up. In a number of places it's
>> explicitly mentioned as having *not* happened, and the GMG timeline as
>> well as all other sources generally assume an old-Earth chronology of
>> Creation.
>
> So far, so good. Could you cite some references to the Flood _not_
> having happened?
>
> The question was not "is the Biblical account of the Flood
> reasonable?" It's "does In Nomine's timeline include something at all
> analogous to the Flood?" Said Flood would not have had to have been a
> global phenomenon in order to inspire myths and legends about a huge
> catastrophe that nearly wiped out humanity.
Okay, then we're talking about two different things. The GMG (pp.
72-73) talks about In Nomine canon directly contradicting
fundamentalist interpretations of scripture, mentioning evolution and
the age of the Earth; this in turn forcibly denies the existence of the
geological or genetic catastrophes that would have occurred with a
literal reading of the Flood from Exodus.
If you want to suggest that a small flood turned into the biblical
story, that's something else entirely. Minor floods, of course, occur
with regularity all over the world, and the notion of a man, his wife,
and some household animals escaping in a boat is a story that will crop
up anywhere there are boats. The Greeks have their Deucalion, the
bible has its Noah, Hinduism has its Manu, and cultures all across the
world have other flood myths. (Or similar catastrophes: the Egyptians
have Hathor killing most of the world's population with silver arrows
before allowing the survivors to repopulate.)
> As for the Noah figure, consider the possibilities inherent in divine
> support: Jean could have provided "Noah" with the blueprints and
> guidance needed to build the thing;
Assuming Jean isn't blasting a thunderous hole in his own dissonance
conditions, we can paper over the systemic problems of such a boat with
a lot of Songs. But the question would be, why? If Heaven knew a
major flood was coming to an area and wanted to save the biosphere in
the region, instead of bringing a small number of animals to a central
ark, why not move them beyond the boundaries of the localized flood?
If you're suggesting a worldwide flood *is* possible, then you're
contradicted by geology; again, unless someone's employing a massive
number of Songs and tons of Essence expenditure.
This being after the Fall, the notion would be repugnant to the way the
War has been prosecuted. No, the most logical reading of IN canon (to
the point of "it's a real stretch to say otherwise") is that the Flood
is simply one of those myths that worked its way in to Scripture to the
chagrin of Truth-minded angels.
William
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