IN> Re: Birthing Celestials

[Bill Adlam]

Jonathan Lang asked:

> With animals, the question is: should they have souls?  Dreamscapes?
> Destinies and fates?  That is, to what degree should animals be
> treated like humans?

Canonically there are some animal souls in Heaven.  At least some
animals can dream, and they can create Ethereals.  I recall no mention
of nonhuman dreamscapes except for the description of Arachnidae in
"You Are Here", which seems to use the terms 'dreamscape' and 'Domain'
interchangably.  This might signify that nonhuman animals enter
collective Domains instead of wandering in individual 'scapes, or it
might be a minor error.

The more I read Yves's obscure pronouncements, the more I think
everything that exists has a destiny and fate (possibly, too, some
things that don't), though that doesn't mean anything can be saved or
damned like a human being.  After a not-entirely-conclusive discussion
on the In Nomine message board, I formed the theory that only
exceptional animals, who have gained an additional Force, can reach
Heaven.

> With ancient ethereals, the question is: where did they come from
> before there were dreamscapes?  And why don't they come from there
> anymore (or do they)?

>From strands tangling.  <waves hands vaguely>  I think the EPG says
something about that, but I can't find it.

William Keith wrote:

> Boy, is there ever something in the Eli .pdf you'd hate... (Midwife 
> attunement)

The ability is fine and fitting, it's the playing families afterwards
that gets my goat.

Bill/Sagitta