IN> Unwilling rites.

[Brian Rogers]

Gotta disagree. Being goaded into a blind rage is not dissonant. Allowing that rage to affect your actions is.
If your goal was always "Kill the emporer" then it would not be dissonant to follow through on your plan. But if your goal was "Meet the emporer and talk" then it would be dissonant to kill him if you were goaded into doing so.
Remember, Elohim do have emotions, and can express them.
I think some people have overblown ideas as to their limitations. "My mission is complete. Therefore, I will stand motionless in the closet for a week or two until I receive my next mission. Since I do not need to eat or sleep, this is the most logical course of action."

One Elohite story I always liked was on the Fiat Justitia site was the one where Mazpatiel became dissonant for not sleeping with a woman, when his role-character, Patrick Murphy, would have, simply because humanity was not to his taste. You would think that he would be dissonant for engaging in sex, a deeply emotional and passionate act, but his dissonance came from abstaining.
I see the Star Wars parellel as similar, but different.
"Power, you could have slain the emporer, but didn't. Why?" "I was afraid of acting in a passionate manner." Quite simply, the Elohite would have abstained from his duty from fear of dissonance.
Again, there is nothing stopping the Powers from enjoying what they do, if it's what they need to do anyway.
Elohite going to a ball game when there's no mission: okay.
Elohite abandoning his mission to go to a ball game: not okay, and dissonant.
It would be "not okay" for any choir to abandon a mission for a ball game, but is dissonant only for Elohim. (and Swordies)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Childers" <cpt_democracy at hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:48:55 -0500
To: in-nomine-list at sjgames.com
Subject: Re: IN> Unwilling rites.

> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Brian Rogers" <billion-six at mad.scientist.com>
> >Okay. Let's say you walk into the room saying, "I'm going to kill the 
> >emperor." The emperor then goads you into blind rage. You kill the emporer 
> >while in the throes of this rage. Is this dissonant? You are following the 
> >original plan, after all, and removing the emperor would serve the 
> >objective good. Being able to enjoy it is a bonus. If you chose not to 
> >follow your plan and slay the emperor, because you were afraid you might 
> >enjoy it on an emotional level, wouldn't that be dissonant?
> >
> 
> In IN, motive counts. Killing the emperor might make the world a
> better place. But if you killed him because you're a hitman who
> kills lots of people for money, it probably doesn't count as a
> Destiny.
> 
> For an Elohite, allowing themselves to be goaded into a blind
> rage is dissonant, regardless of why they are enraged or of
> what they do while enraged. (Just as lying is dissonant for
> a Seraph even if arguably the greater good is served by a
> lie.)
> 
> Saying "enjoying it is a bonus" sounds pretty Habbalish to
> me.
> 
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