[gurps] TL10 spacecraft, was: wish list
Pauli Hakala
pauli.hakala at dnainternet.net
Wed Feb 25 09:32:10 CST 2009
Onno Meyer wrote:
> David replied to me:
>>>> The exhaust from
>>>> fusion rockets needn't be terribly radioactive. A D-3HE fusion
>>>> reactor is fairly low radiation output.
>>>> David Scheidt
>>>> dmscheidt at gmail.com
>>> Talking about radiation, "fairly low" doesn't sound all that
>>> reassuring, expecially if space traffic starts to rival air
>>> traffic today. Consider what happened to nuclear freighters.
>> It really matters what kind of radiation you're talking about. A
>> D-3He fusion reactor uses two inert (well, one of them is inflammable)
>> gases as fuel. The primary products are heat, a proton, an alpha
>> particle, and some X rays. Most of the Xrays will be absorbed by the
>> shell of the reactor, as they're radiated pretty equally in all
>> directions. One end of a fusion rocket is open, so there will
>> escaping Xrays in that direction. They'll get absorbed (as heat) by
>> the atmosphere in less distance than the exhaust will kill anything
>> the plain old-fashioned way: by setting it on fire. The proton and
>> alpha particle will be indistinguishable from the very high
>> temperature air or other reaction mass that's being shot out the back.
>> There are essentially no long-lasting sources of radiation there.
>> Setting things on fire is much more of a problem. The exhaust
>> temperature is very high. For things that act something like
>> airplanes (with wings or lifting bodies) they can use the air-ram as a
>> sort of ducted fan until they're well air borne, and then turn on the
>> full power.
>>
>> Fission reactors, on the other hand, produce lots of particles that
>> hang around and emit radiation for (days/months/years/centuries),
>> depending on the particular reactions involved. (They could be used
>> in a fully-closed thermal only mode, but I don't think they'd produce
>> enough thrust that way.)
>
> Once upon a time, I wrote those. For frontier operations, they have
> vectored thrust, despite the fact that they fry the landing zone. I
> figured that you could come down with a light touch, and never take
> off twice from the same spot.
>
> I kind of dodged the question if a fusion air ram (and a fusion ram
> rocket) is supposed to be an pure ramjet. If so, it only works over
> 375 mph, and the initial acceleration must come from a water-based
> fusion rocket.
>
Fusion Air-Rams are clearly described in V2nd as sucking in air
- i.e. actively breathing in air regardless of vehicle velocity. There
is no reason given to believe that fusion ram-rockets would behave
at all differently in an atmosphere. No minimum air speed is mentioned
anywhere for fusion air rams or fusion ram-rockets.
This does make sense, because at the point where your technology can
make a small miniaturized fusion reactor for a fusion air-ram, equipping
that same engine with air intake fans powered by that fusion reactor
should not be a problem, IMHO..
-Pauli
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